tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post3268655715704605635..comments2024-03-27T05:47:21.295-07:00Comments on Ayn Rand Contra Human Nature: Objectivism & Politics, Part 39Daniel Barneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06359277853862225286noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-92186394878476250232020-03-03T16:14:04.329-08:002020-03-03T16:14:04.329-08:00Capitalism Is Not Inherently Immoral, Contrary to ...Capitalism Is Not Inherently Immoral, Contrary to Prof. Eric Foner.<br />Gary North - December 20, 2012<br /><br />Prof. Foner…he is incorrect when he says that capitalism is immoral. Capitalism follows Smith's lead: to be successful, a producer must serve the customer. You must appeal to his self-interest. This is surely moral. It is anti-coercive. It does not rely on a badge and a gun to extract wealth from someone else.<br /><br />There is a confrontation within the Republican Party: social conservatives vs. libertarians. But this is not based on morality vs. immorality or amorality. It is based on rival views of morality.<br /><br />https://www.garynorth.com/public/10456.cfmmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00656136425753297294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-50237516625809164612020-03-03T16:06:22.327-08:002020-03-03T16:06:22.327-08:00Socialism: Illegitimate, Not Just Inefficient. Gar...Socialism: Illegitimate, Not Just Inefficient. Gary North - June 07, 2018<br /><br /><br />Moral argument for capitalism<br /><br />A successful critique of the messianic State must offer a rival view to the prevailing social order’s views of justice and injustice.<br /><br /><br />The moral case against socialism and collectivism generally.<br /><br />If you do not have the right to disown a piece of property, then you do not own it.<br /><br /><br />The libertarian says, “This bread is mine.” The Christian says (or ought to say), “This bread is God’s, and He has delegated control over it, and responsibility for it, to me.”<br /><br /><br />Socialist and Collectivist believe that “some of your bread is mine.”<br /><br />Socialist and Collectivist rejects the owner’s exclusive claim, meaning his right to exclude everyone else from this bread. Society has a moral claim on this bread, the socialist claims.<br /><br /><br /><br />https://www.garynorth.com/public/18167.cfmmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00656136425753297294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-34435376206479691402010-02-09T18:07:21.978-08:002010-02-09T18:07:21.978-08:00The problem with the Tea Party Movement is that I ...The problem with the Tea Party Movement is that I want to know where many of these protesters when the Patriot Act, the FCC threw in tons of regulations for the Janet Jackson nipple incident, wire tapping and people being accused of "hating America" if they disagreed with the government these last eight years. Many of the Tea Party people like Palin didn't kick up a fuss then.YhuntressEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190352084936200759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-91600685994236309862010-01-25T12:38:28.284-08:002010-01-25T12:38:28.284-08:00"Perhaps if the 'movement' wasn't..."Perhaps if the 'movement' wasn't lead by ... LP & Yaron Brook her ideas might be more popular?"<br /><br />LP and Brook may not help the cause much, but the real problem is too many ideas that most people feel unappealing. Rightly or wrongly, most people don't want their individualism taken to the extreme Rand insisted on taking it. In a world of uncertainty, most people want government financed safety-nets and the like. It's human nature that's the major problem here.gregnyquisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13653516868316854941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-11801922255918416942010-01-25T03:08:49.803-08:002010-01-25T03:08:49.803-08:00"If you sincerely believe that Rand is on the..."If you sincerely believe that Rand is on the right track and that her political ideals are not merely wishful thinking, the thing to do is to develop better arguments for these ideals."<br /><br />Perhaps if the 'movement' wasn't lead by such sick peices of *beep* like LP & Yaron Brook her ideas might be more popular?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-91208338493830864452010-01-24T08:56:15.820-08:002010-01-24T08:56:15.820-08:00"The scary quotes are flying, the sarcasm and..."The scary quotes are flying, the sarcasm and belittlement are getting cruder and the pretense that Rand is stupid"<br /><br />Where is the pretense that Rand is stupid? Her arguments, true enough, are sometimes pretentious and silly; but sometimes the arguments of Plato, Descartes, Hegel are also kind of silly—it's a long and prestigious tradition in philosophy and happens whenever a philosopher wanders too far from empirical responsibility. I'm sorry that John can see nothing by sarcasm and belittlement in my post; that he cannot understand the criticisms in it. If you sincerely believe that Rand is on the right track and that her political ideals are not merely wishful thinking, the thing to do is to develop better arguments for these ideals. Irrespective of whether Rand's ideals are good, bad, or indifferent, her arguments for them are jejune and meretricious. But this does not make Rand stupid, merely human. She suffered from a severe case of epistemic arrogance, which prevented her from appreciating how easy it is to unwittingly fall into an empirically irresponsible rationalization.gregnyquisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13653516868316854941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-17217993258760838192010-01-24T04:16:03.684-08:002010-01-24T04:16:03.684-08:00"The scary quotes are flying"
Wot? no ..."The scary quotes are flying"<br /><br />Wot? no examples?<br /><br />", the sarcasm and belittlement are getting cruder"<br /><br />Really? Again, any examples?<br /><br /><br /> "and the pretense that Rand is stupid for not being a deduction-only flathead grow thin thin thin."<br /><br />Evidence please.<br /><br />Or else it's just a succession of baseless dogmatic assertions. How rational is that John?<br /><br />Steven Johnston<br />Stockport, UKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-16143532452111711742010-01-24T04:13:31.999-08:002010-01-24T04:13:31.999-08:00John, are you the same John, who belevies that eve...John, are you the same John, who belevies that ever single Christian and Muslim are war like savages hell bent on destroying each other? You believe this, if you do, because...erm AR and LP said it's so, so it must be true right?<br /><br />Yet over here in the UK we have a large Muslim pop. and whilst I don't deny there have been riots, conflicts, fights etc. you could not say, that the white people, who attacked the Muslims did so because they were such hard core Christians they were going to teach them infidels a lesson!<br /><br />Steven Johnston<br />Stockport, UKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-88222739110255203522010-01-23T10:01:57.520-08:002010-01-23T10:01:57.520-08:00Getting desperate, Greg?
The scary quotes are fly...Getting desperate, Greg?<br /><br />The scary quotes are flying, the sarcasm and belittlement are getting cruder and the pretense that Rand is stupid for not being a deduction-only flathead grow thin thin thin.<br /><br />John Donohue<br />Pasadena, CAJohn Donohuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15002005729072165615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-74667570111371196412010-01-23T08:22:21.993-08:002010-01-23T08:22:21.993-08:00The Tea Party Movement is a part of the American t...The Tea Party Movement is a part of the American tradition. It is what the elite few who want to rule the many, as the current Democrat Party and many old-line Republicans, would oppose. It is something I believe Ayn Rand would support. It comes from a unique tradition of local home rule, where government was no further from the governed than one day’s horseback ride, and individual interests were more important than are community interests. That led to the more involved citizen, the town hall meetings and even the vigilante movement. From the early days, the Tea Party Movement is but an extension of American traditions and perfectly correct. Surely, the Old World, such as England and France, would never permit such a thing, as their traditions were inclined to be bloody conflicts, not peaceful demonstrations. The differences are cited in the Changing Face of Democrats, Our Libertarian Roots Lost, on Amazon and claysamerica.com.claybarhamnoreply@blogger.com