tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post2530001655616411366..comments2024-03-27T05:47:21.295-07:00Comments on Ayn Rand Contra Human Nature: Ayn Rand & Epistemology 22Daniel Barneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06359277853862225286noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-19997119782749040092012-12-02T06:29:43.942-08:002012-12-02T06:29:43.942-08:00Yeah, I have asked and asked and never got a clear...Yeah, I have asked and asked and never got a clear answer.<br />Clearly they cannot take the Marxist position but they also hate Hegel, so where does that leave them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-40550057070109024082012-12-01T21:22:42.156-08:002012-12-01T21:22:42.156-08:00"So can anyone help me out here? Re the diale..."So can anyone help me out here? Re the dialectic, Objectivists must take the Hegelian postion, that ideas influence society?"<br />Yes.<br /><br /><br />"Yet, if they take that position it would contradict most of her most famout work Atlas Shrugged. As people turn to John Galt due to the society they find themselves in"<br />You Kantian second-hander! Don't you know that John Galt is only the representation of the ideal which animates the heart of all True Objectivists and... bla bla bla.<br /><br />Yea, it's the paradox of both believing in absolute total free will AND in historical determinism. To my knowledge, it's never been addressed.<br />Francois Tremblayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04760072622693359795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-5035768289116330472012-11-12T12:14:45.920-08:002012-11-12T12:14:45.920-08:00So can anyone help me out here? Re the dialectic,...So can anyone help me out here? Re the dialectic, Objectivists must take the Hegelian postion, that ideas influence society? Yet, if they take that position it would contradict most of her most famout work Atlas Shrugged. As people turn to John Galt due to the society they find themselves inAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-48368139787525192542012-11-11T14:51:17.130-08:002012-11-11T14:51:17.130-08:00One thing that interested me is what is the object...One thing that interested me is what is the objectivist position on the dialetic are they Hegelians or Marxists? I mean do they believe that ideas shape society or that society shapes ideas?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-59499587956151609892012-11-11T11:14:58.778-08:002012-11-11T11:14:58.778-08:00I think continuing to focus on the wonders of Rand...I think continuing to focus on the wonders of Rand's less-than-objective Objectivism will be sufficient.<br /><br /><br />Besides, it's not as if the Randroids are going to let up.CWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-2086192185829405302012-11-11T11:13:50.756-08:002012-11-11T11:13:50.756-08:00Reality isn't logical or illogical, these are ...Reality isn't logical or illogical, these are meaningless terms in this context. It's just like discussing whether length is red or blue. Logic is an aspect of reasoning, of deciding whether a <i>model</i> of reality is consistent (no matter how weird it may seem to our eyes), but applying the term to reality itself is just nonsense.<br /><br />This attitude of Peikoff also explains his silly attacks on Gödel's incompleteness theorems, not to mention "refutations" of those theorems by latter-day Objectivists. Of course their rational philosophy trumps mathematics...Dragonflynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196034.post-31378293621424570322012-11-11T06:48:11.733-08:002012-11-11T06:48:11.733-08:00...And with the Romney-Ryan defeat the horrors of ......And with the Romney-Ryan defeat the horrors of quasi-Objectivist "government" have been avoided, so now ARCHN can focus on the wonders of doorstops, drinking contests, and UFOs.<br /><br />Ding-dong the witch is dead...Strelnikovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12660962615198939441noreply@blogger.com